well I downloaded disc 2 of the starter pack, which has the char creation. I have no idea what disc 1 has on it, hopefully a lil demo. I have yet to find this for download htough so I dunno? The first beta phase should be out REAL soon. They say they are just puttin the finishing touches on it. I will for sure post impressions if I get into beta, it looks to be great and fix a lot of the things that make mmo's tedious and time consuming. They are aiming for this to be enjoyable for ppl that have less that 14-15 hrs a week to play.